deetdee12
I notice the other negative review is from a clearly far right poster. I am not, I'm definitely a Dem, support social programs and am fully aware of the pain the recession created. However, that said, this film was still wildly slanted, inaccurate and to be honest, most of these people were never really "middle class", even at the best of times.How do I know this? I live in PDX and I was unemployed for an extended period of time during the Great Recession, I went on a million interviews--and I grew up very poor. I had even more difficulty because I was older (mid to late 40's) and had worked in a heavily recession hit industry (hospitality). IN fact I frequent lost jobs to vastly less experienced, much younger and hotter women. And all the subsequent jobs I've both turned down and ultimately wound up at paid significantly less than my previous one (though I now get to work from home and it's less stressful, so there are always advantages)...however...many of the points ARE still faulty: 1) The bulk of these people were never "middle class": one family lives in a trailer park; another was a family of 4 previously living on 40K in an apartment (just barely working class, IMHO), one family appeared to be tweakers; the recently widowed mom obviously wasn't middle class, because her husband's insurance policy alone would've saved her from her rapid descent into homelessness; I don't even understand the insurance issue lady because Oregon has SCHIP for uninsured kids,"terming" her employment would've made her COBRA-eligible during that period AND violated both federal and Oregon's more generous FMLA laws. The "college educated" woman was a CNA and technical college (trade school) educated. Had she bothered to research her job choice, she would've known what a mistake it was. And she never made more, even before the recession.2) There are plenty of minimum wage, crappy jobs in Oregon. Even at the height of the recession these were available. ACS (a call center) was always hiring and never met their recruitment goals. Awful job? Sure, but it paid $$$, so there were things you could do.3) Almost every family had other, both short and long term options available to them to avoid the destitution they all seemed to face: a)the mom skipping meals: Ramen is 5 packet for $1, every day at Fred's. Lame meal choice? Sure, but lame beats going hungry. Her husband had the most clear cut case of a civil rights violation I've ever seen, time to file a BOLI complaint. And again, plenty of other minimum wage jobs to be had.b) the actual previously middle class dad with the Down Syndrome kid, had parents maybe 100 miles away. Time to leave your beloved farm (that's already in foreclosure) and go live with them. Really, it might embarrassing, but it beats being homeless. Not to mention, he owed $457K on that house---even while working, how would he have EVER afforded that on $60K? Even lowish mortgage payments would've been at $4K per month----already more than his net pay. c) Princess apartment mommy with her suburban/SAHM fantasy world: Honey, your husband never made all that much money and his unemployment (if he opted not to take taxes out until tax time) would've already been very close to his original take home pay. Had you even cashiered part time at Target, your income would've ran about the same. Not sure why she felt working was worse than taking charity or being evicted. Not to mention, plenty of people (myself and my husband included) experience such setbacks in their 20's.I'm really not sure WHY he took a job that paid substantially less than he brought home on UI to begin with, especially since UI ran for 2 years back then (with extensions). Not to mention, 10 interviews is NOTHING! d) CNA Mommy had chosen her career----and I would've worked a second job in her situation.e) Hospital Mom: talk to the hospital social worker. It's their job to help you with this and work this out. In Oregon we have SCHIP, other catastrophic coverage, etc. Not to mention there are grants, etc to cover just that. Or simply declare bankruptcy. Plenty of options there----and the hospital would've worked with her to find them.f) Former VW finance dude: you're fully qualified to sell cars or even be a finance manager (the best paying job in the dealership). Again, yes they were hiring during this time frame. And again, if it worked out better for you to collect UI (I do get that), why wasn't your wife working? Back when most wives stayed home, they did go work to supplement the family income during periods of the breadwinner's unemployment. Because instead of living a soccer mommy fantasy, they looked to keep their family afloat. Nowadays, most moms DO work, yet this piece picked primarily non-working moms and portrayed them as victims. Very non-feminist.G) Widow mom and son were eligible for survivors' benefits, emergency housing, etc--not to mention, most jobs carry some sort of minimal life insurance for free. I get that she was completely devastated, but again, the well being of my child would be my first priority.BTW, the bulk of this wasn't even shot in PDX, but clearly Clackamas County---which is, ironically, largely Republican. And I bet you most of these people previously voted Republican.
Dixie
This show totally distorts the truth, but I've come to expect that of HBO and "documentaries" in which they are involved. I knew what this was going to turn into, but I had to wait until just past the 20 minute mark to see a person say that the solution was to regulate capitalism. From there the untruths and out and out lies flowed freely. The truth of the matter is that Jimmy Carter started this economic meltdown with the Affordable Housing Act which turned into the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) and became the real reason we had the economic crash of 2008. Of course it was aided along the way by Clinton during his reform of the CRA to get rid of down payments, and added incentives in some cases and arm-twisting in others to get banks to lower requirements or make loans without down payments and with many safe-guards to qualifying borrowers removed.Then, during the Bush administration, questions started being asked and answers were not forth coming. Bush requested hearings on the potential of a housing/economic crisis which was totally blocked by the likes of Congressman Barney Franks in the House of Representatives and Senator Chris Dodd who were chairs of the respective committees in the House and Senate which oversaw the housing market. Their alleged wrong doing was never really investigated, but included alleged sweetheart deals on prices and interest rates and several business opportunities which allegedly bordered on possible bribes. If HBO wanted to do something that matter and be honest about it, then they should do a "documentary" on the Affordable House Act/Community Reinvestment Act, the changes incorporated by Clinton and how Franks/Dodd blocked our only chance to stop the crisis before we got to where we are now.In short, American Winter (2013) is nothing less than Marxist propaganda laying blame on Capitalism and the rich. Nothing about the massive wrong-doing by leftist extremist giving away America's future. Then along comes Obama who is constantly preaching class warfare and laying the blame on the "rich." The producers and directors of this show have absolutely no concept as to what makes a society and economy successful. ...and it definitely isn't taxing the very corporations and individuals who can pull us out of this downward spiral into oblivion that is going to save us. These leftist, Marxist extremist are going to run out of other people's money in the near future. When that happens welcome to yet another failed experiment in Socialism - exactly like it has failed in every instance socialism has been tried.