Matcollis
This Movie Can Only Be Described With One Word.
Colibel
Terrible acting, screenplay and direction.
Brendon Jones
It’s fine. It's literally the definition of a fine movie. You’ve seen it before, you know every beat and outcome before the characters even do. Only question is how much escapism you’re looking for.
Marva-nova
Amazing worth wacthing. So good. Biased but well made with many good points.
Granger
First let me say I found the video fascinating. But I also found many of its claims and statements questionable. I give it 5 stars for "making you think"... but one needs to think just a bit further than the presentation of this video.I don't question that a vegan diet is more healthy than the "American Diet". I have personally seen evidence of such. But I do scientifically question the presentation that all animal-based proteins are "bad".This is especially the case in the rat test, in which casein protein was used as a test substance. Is that a proper protein for for such a test? Was this research followed up using other animal-based proteins-- or a rounded protein diet? What about plant-based proteins?If such follow-up study was done, why were the results not published? Where is the A vs B comparison? Casein may be considered an unhealthy, questionable test substance to start with. Where are comparative follow-up studies?Comparing affluent families with poor families from the same region and attributing poor health directly to meat would seem somewhat jump-the-shark. What about other influencing factors such as sodas and other excessive-sugar content food, high fat content in affluent diet, not to mention food additives and processed foods? Attributing poor health solely to meat intake seems a biased conclusion that ignores other very important dietary factors... not to mention that poorer children likely also had a less-sedentary lifestyle than affluent children.There were just too many blanket conclusions in the film for me to accept it as scientifically accurate; thus it was unconvincing.Can a plant-based diet improve health? Most likely... if balanced properly. Is it absolutely necessary to stop all animal-based foods? The jury would seem still out on that one, as this film presented zero research on what would happen if one simply eliminated processed foods and refined sugars and switched to a natural, balanced meat and vegetable diet. The direct attribution of cancer to meat is solid propaganda. Their own studies proved this and was visible in their own presentation. The reality that the Asian-diet (which does not center on meat but doesn't exclude it either) proved as healthy in tests as a vegan diet would present evidence that their conclusions are faulty-- and that it is not essential to totally eliminate animal-based foods to retain excellent health. That's my take on the film. My primary questions: where is the follow-up research to the rat casein intake test? Why did they consider meat to be THE culprit while apparently discarding so many other factors? A more balanced (and more researched) study seems warranted.
Robert Jackson
Forks Over Knives is a documentary film that advocates for a low- fat, whole-food, plant-based diet, arguing that eating plant-based foods and avoiding animal-based foods, can prevent or reverse serious health problems. There are many benefits to choosing this diet over a "western diet", a diet high in fat, sugar, processed foods, and meat. The healthy plant-based diet is high in vitamins and minerals and it won't raise your bad cholesterol. Unlike the fatty "western diet", this diet prevents the buildup of fat in arteries, which can cause cardiovascular disease. Despite it advocating healthier eating, Forks Over Knives is not without fault. The film argues against the consumption of animal-based foods, specifically targeting meat and dairy, even going as far as to suggest that animal-based foods have little to no nutritional benefit and should never be eaten. While eating too much meat is unhealthy, lean meat and fish in moderation can be part of a healthy diet. The film also states that drinking too much milk is bad, but like meat, it can be part of a healthy diet when consumed in moderation.Still, the film has other redeeming moments, such as its valid points about the effect the consumption of animal products has on the world. For example, it states that world hunger would end if all the grain fed to animals was redistributed to people who need it. In my opinion, this argument is better because it is about humanity as a whole, which is more important than one person's diet. Arguments like these are much more likely to convert me to veganism than questionable claims about the supposed lack of nutritional value in all animal products.Overall, Forks Over Knives, has something great to say, but it is seriously hampered by its strong, biased anti-meat and anti- dairy stance. This position is repeatedly enforced throughout the film, which could encourage some viewers to become vegan or even look down on those who eat animal-based products. Although there are great things about low-fat, whole-food, plant-based diets, this movie is not the best way to learn about them.
a_baron
This is a controversial film but its message although superficially persuasive is neither new nor entirely convincing. Although viewed primarily from a US perspective, it is aimed at what might be called the Western diet in its entirety.Is eating red meat and/or processed food and/or sugar really killing us? Or too much of the stuff? Too much of anything will kill you, including too much water in a short period.Back in the 1980s we were being warned about the perils of too much saturated fat, and told we should engage in what is now called "healthy eating". Like most of us plebs I found this thesis persuasive, then I read "Eat Your Heart Out" by James Le Fanu. I went on not only to meet the author but to visit him at his South London home, charming guy, and extremely knowledgeable. In this book he points out that the ideas peddled by the healthy eating brigade are overly simplistic. You eat "too much" saturated fat, and it clogs up your arteries. Well no, the human body doesn't work quite like that.Although it is more than simply a rehash of this dogma, "Forks Over Knives" says more or less the same thing as those Dr Le Fanu shot down in his classic medical monograph. True, it does use a massive body of evidence, including from China, but is it really that simple? As Jacque Fresco pointed out, rabbits get cancer too.We hear one prominent dissenting voice, the high powered nutritionist Connie Diekman, who speaks in favour of animal protein. The most controversial claim made here is that dairy products cause rather than insure against osteoporosis. That and that the FDA is really a farmers' advocacy group. True, there is vested interest here, but as another contributor points out, vested interest comes in many forms.There is no mention of the decades long and ongoing Framingham study, probably because from the dogmatist's point of view its results have been disappointing. Towards the end we see an agenda, this film is as much a political document as a nutrition guide. We are warned of environmental desolation if we continue to eat meat. One contributor speaks of holding a deep respect for animals. Seriously? I have absolutely no "respect" for a bacon slice on my plate, and likewise absolutely no compunction about eating it. The US is slaughtering 10 billion "innocent" animals every year. Wow! And how many of those "innocent" animals would have been bred if we were all eating nothing but vegan burgers?There is though a very good point made about endothelial cells, and could the bottom line be that most people are simply eating too much? Eat a pound of steak and you may still have room for dessert. Eat a pound of lettuce, and you won't. The choice is yours – I've already made mine.Seriously though, the message of this film is worth digesting, but don't expect to live forever or even substantially longer by altering your diet, although it may seem like it. On a slightly metaphysical note, some of us will live for as long as we were intended to, and as long as we have work to do. If that were not the case, I would have been dead decades ago, fried chicken dinner or not.
LilyDaleLady
Even if I was a vegetarian, I'd be dismayed by this film, which is a textbook example of propaganda -- think Leni Reifenstahl and "The Triumph of the Will" in Hitler's Germany. Such films have an agenda, and use cinematic techniques to promote that agenda, without balance or integrity or truthfulness. Truth plays a backseat to promoting the political agenda.Here the agenda is .... veganism. And not just general "it's good for you!" veganism nor even the "save the cute widdle animals" veganism -- this is a direct polemic stating that veganism -- and ONLY veganism -- will save your life, enable you to cure a whole range of diseases and live for a very long time, the whole while as a fit, buff triathelete or firefighter.The theories of Dr. Caldwell and Dr. Esselstyn are the most extreme of all eating regimes -- not even vegetarianism is remotely good enough here. This is the Pritikin or Ornish diets, on steroids. ZERO fats, zero meat, zero dairy products -- yup, folks, YOGURT will kill you. Milk, of course, will kill you -- even organic skim milk.What does this leave you to eat? Only vegetables, and more vegetables. Furthermore, they must be steamed or baked, as you cannot of course fry or stir fry, sauté or fricassee because remember -- ZERO fats. Yes, folks -- OLIVE OIL, now it's bad for you. Even Canola oil. No oils or fats whatsoever, in any form. SO this is a diet of steamed vegetables and only steamed vegetables, and nothing else.Needless to say, this very harsh diet is not too appealing to any normal person, nor is it a diet normally eaten by any human society on earth. It lacks a number of nutrients and vitamins, which must be taken by pill form (B-12 etc.). But of course, unpalatable as it is, it leads directly to weight loss -- and the weight loss to remission from obesity, Type II diabetes, coronary artery disease and cholesterol problems.I can almost accept that, though of course 99% of people cannot stick to a diet this horrible. You might as well say you can cure these things if you fast all the time, and live on water, but it does not translate that most folks can do that.But it goes off the rails when the filmmakers state you can CURE METASTATIC BREAST CANCER (and infer, all cancers) by eating vegan foods. Not prevent breast cancer -- not cure a primary tumor -- but cure breast cancer which had spread to the subjects spine, liver and bones. This is untrue, and a hateful, ugly promise to make to suffering cancer victims, which cannot possibly be true. Nor does the movie offer any PROOF, besides one elderly lady's anecdotal story (we do not even know for sure she ever had cancer, for starters) that this is so. Certainly any "proof" would involve thousands of patients with metastatic cancer over many years, and with double blind studies.It is shocking and horrifying that two physicians who call themselves "scientists" would promise such a thing. It proved to me, what I had been thinking silently through the rest of the film -- this is not science, this is RELIGION...the religion of veganism, which incorporates a hatred for all things pleasurable in the world (but especially food), a belief in eternal life (promised to you by eating vegan!) and the necessity to preach at and convert others. As such, it is frightening beyond any other type of diet hucksterism.NO matter what you eat, I assure you -- you are going to die sometime, and you will die of SOMETHING. No diet in the world can save you from metastatic cancer, and I am appalled beyond words at DOCTORS pushing a protocol on patients which involves REFUSING chemo and radiation (proven to help) and instead an unproven diet plan. (Note that cancer victims typically lose a lot of weight and have trouble eating; I can't imagine a worse thing that forcing them to eat tasteless vegan dishes and lose weight on purpose!)On top of this, the film is dry and full of statistics, along with simple-minded attacks on old filmstrips that show "the 7 basic food groups" or whatever, from like 1946. Also I noted that when the filmmaker himself is shown going on his diet, as well as other participants, they are very openly showing bags and boxes from the Whole Foods chain of stores (was it a paid advertisement?).In short, not recommended. This is religion, not science. It is a sad comment on society that we cannot discuss and debate issues about food and diet, without it becoming an attack on other people who eat differently than we do, or on other people's body types or habits.