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Best movie ever!
Glucedee
It's hard to see any effort in the film. There's no comedy to speak of, no real drama and, worst of all.
Ketrivie
It isn't all that great, actually. Really cheesy and very predicable of how certain scenes are gonna turn play out. However, I guess that's the charm of it all, because I would consider this one of my guilty pleasures.
Hulkeasexo
it is the rare 'crazy' movie that actually has something to say.
The_TJT
Forgotten gem of a classic war drama, delivered with taste and nice looking b/w cinematography. The story follows a platoon of US soldiers across several cities on their conquest of Europe during WWII. It's more of a compilation of vignettes on the platoon members' wartime affairs with local European women rather than a traditional war film, being almost devoid of battle scenes. Yet the presence of war is always felt; as in the superb bombing scene with Sgt Craig and the wealthy French war widow, played by Wallach and Moreau."The Victors" has a great all-round cast of characters, including George Hamilton as corporal Trower, Eli Wallach as the tough sergeant, Jeanne Moreau and Rosanna Schiaffino playing short but memorable segments as the conquered women, to name a few. The version I saw has a relatively long running time of two and half hours, and is sometimes slightly slow for all tastes.... which is however compensated with several high impact scenes that linger well after the fact... for example one with Peter Fonda and a doomed puppy. The film is a great character study on human condition and makes a strong anti-war message, especially in the snowy execution scene of a deserter with Sinatra's Christmas song playing in the background... a contrast of tender music and violence which contributes to one of the most striking scenes in cinematic history... a combination later seen in many films such as Kubrik's DR. STRANGELOVE (1964), Leone's THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY (1966), Peckinpah's CROSS OF IRON (1977) - and of course various Tarantino films where the meaning is to rather glorify violence instead of criticizing it."The Victors" is based on British writer Alexander Baron's book "The Human Kind", which is a collection of short stories based on the author's own wartime experiences. Excellent film.
benbaum-280-362993
Lost gem of a movie that is hard to find, that has an important take on war and reminds us that when we, the public, push for war, we should consider what we are really getting into, hell. Not so much a "war" battle type movie a war "soldier type" movie. This film is set during the war and deals with the affects on mankind, soldier and civilian, after repeated exposure to wars' violence, stress, excessive drinking and loneliness. It stares at the numbness. This has been called an anti-war movie, but I'm not so sure I agree, to me its more of an honest look at how wars affects people, soldiers and civilians, how they change their personal moral codes to survive the hell they are in, how mob violence, peer pressure and the silent majority allow good people to let bad things happen to each other. In the end war is shown to be a simple waste of effort as so often happens, enemies become friends and friends become enemies. In this film we see the change from Americans and Russians banding together to fight Germans in WWII to Americans and Germans banding together to fight Russians in the Cold War a few years later. Was the sacrifice worth it with the hindsight of the cold war?
frostik
Most of us can recall moments in our life where we vividly remember more than just a particular event. Sometimes, unimportant details such as the weather, where you were sitting or standing, or the day of the week can become as big a part of our memory as the actual event. This has been my experience since having watched the "The Victors" over forty years ago.I only saw it once but I intuitively knew that I had watched something important. Even now, I can see the face of actor Vince Edwards as he thoughtfully and solemnly manuevers his way through Europe as he participates in the war. I can't remember the other actors or the plot of the movie and am unable to be specific as to why it affected me so strongly.If I watched this movie again it is likely I would come to understand it's impact on my adolescent psyche. But from what I hear the movie is unavailable. Too bad for me any anyone else who never viewed this powerful film
raven_1-1
This is a truly excellent film and is perhaps the greatest American war film ever made; a soldier's version of The Cruel Sea, where the relentless frightfulness of the war grinds down the participants humanity to a degree they never imagined possible.Too many war films portray some inane gung-ho spirit (any John Wayne film; Where Eagles Dare) or too much manufactured pathos (e.g. any John Wayne film; Saving Private Ryan)to be truly saddening; but The Victors really tears at the heart and mind when showing how ordinary people (soldiers and civilians) are emotionally damaged by the war (e.g. the dog scenes or the violinist's actions that starts the erosion of George Hamilton's basic decency)and we care about their fate or cry at what they become (actually I only felt tears for the final dog scene, but really identified emotionally with Hamilton when he saw the violinist with the oafish soldier).The viewer is given no easy consolation by characters dying to save others or marrying that desolate woman, and will emerge from the film a little sadder, but wiser. I cannot recommend this film too highly.As an amusing (ish) and friendly aside, I have worked out how manufacturers of American helmets could have saved manufacturing costs! How? Easy.......just dispense with the chin straps because no American soldier ever appears to use them in any film I have ever seen and the helmet stays on under all and any conditions!!!